Kate Bowler has trouble nodding along when people say things like Don’t put that into the universe and God doesn’t give you more than you can handle. But what she simply cannot endure is when someone assures her that Everything happens for a reason. Her point of view is tied to two extraordinary truths of her life: she’s a divinity professor at Duke, and she has Stage 4 cancer. She splits her time between studying how religion works and getting surgeries that move her belly button around and then recovering from them with her husband who she’s been with since she was in braces and her son, who at six, doesn’t really get why sometimes she can’t do dance parties with him. This conversation will fill you up. Guaranteed.